Hello,
I started working on my home design in sketch-up with DD and found DD very useful add-on saving me plenty of clicks and time, but after enabling "inferred dimensions" feature I ran out of 25 dimensions pretty quickly. Just try to count dimensions in your inferred dimension feature manual and you'll see: there are about 30 dimensions in pretty simple model. I would say that 25 dimensions is to few for almost any design with "inferred dimensions", so I would say that either inferred dimensions should not be counted at all or total number of dimensions in free versions should be increased at least 4-5 times to make it anyhow useful and don't loose the building-up community of DD users.
Btw, do you plan to release Mac version of DD?
Regards,
Nick
Full Version: 25 dimensions runs out too fast
Hello Nick,
Thank you for the interest to our plugin. With inreffed dimensions switched on you have 5 driving dimensions per rectangle or 11 per box. So 25 dimensions are enough to design a simple house like one presented in our tutorial. To use inferred dimensions for more complex design one has to buy the DD Pro version ($45 per single user license).
Please note that inferred dimensions are switched off by default in the free version of DD. And if you don't use inferred dimensions, the limit of 25 driving dimensions is reached rarely by non-professional users.
Anyway, thank you for the suggestion to increase the limit - we will consider it.
Our current plan is to release the Mac version in the next quarter.
Thank you for the interest to our plugin. With inreffed dimensions switched on you have 5 driving dimensions per rectangle or 11 per box. So 25 dimensions are enough to design a simple house like one presented in our tutorial. To use inferred dimensions for more complex design one has to buy the DD Pro version ($45 per single user license).
Please note that inferred dimensions are switched off by default in the free version of DD. And if you don't use inferred dimensions, the limit of 25 driving dimensions is reached rarely by non-professional users.
Anyway, thank you for the suggestion to increase the limit - we will consider it.
Our current plan is to release the Mac version in the next quarter.
Thank you for your prompt answer.
Well, I actualy wanted to design my home plan (interior) and it is a bit more complex than one in the tutorial, but even in the tutorial you've got 11(the house) +5+5+5 (windows and door) +1 (roof angle)= 27
I don't do designs regularly (this one was intended to assist me in construction works), so I don't feel like needing to buy a product which I will use once in a quite a while (if more than once or twice) even if it costs less than $50.
Will be glad to see free Mac version and hope you will increase dimensions count eventually.
Well, I actualy wanted to design my home plan (interior) and it is a bit more complex than one in the tutorial, but even in the tutorial you've got 11(the house) +5+5+5 (windows and door) +1 (roof angle)= 27
I don't do designs regularly (this one was intended to assist me in construction works), so I don't feel like needing to buy a product which I will use once in a quite a while (if more than once or twice) even if it costs less than $50.Will be glad to see free Mac version and hope you will increase dimensions count eventually.
QUOTE (Loginin @ Mar 12 2009, 07:31 AM) 
Hello,
I started working on my home design in sketch-up with DD and found DD very useful add-on saving me plenty of clicks and time, but after enabling "inferred dimensions" feature I ran out of 25 dimensions pretty quickly. Just try to count dimensions in your inferred dimension feature manual and you'll see: there are about 30 dimensions in pretty simple model. I would say that 25 dimensions is to few for almost any design with "inferred dimensions", so I would say that either inferred dimensions should not be counted at all or total number of dimensions in free versions should be increased at least 4-5 times to make it anyhow useful and don't loose the building-up community of DD users.
Btw, do you plan to release Mac version of DD?
Regards,
Nick
I started working on my home design in sketch-up with DD and found DD very useful add-on saving me plenty of clicks and time, but after enabling "inferred dimensions" feature I ran out of 25 dimensions pretty quickly. Just try to count dimensions in your inferred dimension feature manual and you'll see: there are about 30 dimensions in pretty simple model. I would say that 25 dimensions is to few for almost any design with "inferred dimensions", so I would say that either inferred dimensions should not be counted at all or total number of dimensions in free versions should be increased at least 4-5 times to make it anyhow useful and don't loose the building-up community of DD users.
Btw, do you plan to release Mac version of DD?
Regards,
Nick
nick, maybe you could try and use the dimensions a little sparingly dimension that you know aren't going to change may not need to be dimensioned. hope that helps.
Dmitry, thank you so much for this amazing plugin. still looking forward to relations; =, parallel ...
i have two suggestions for you, if i may. first of all to address Nick's (and i'm sure other free users) concern, maybe you could comprimise by not counting fixed verts as part of the 25 dims limit.
secondly, it might be less cluttering on screen if the auto generated, edge-edge angle dimensions were hidden and only appeared when hovered over with the DDtool, then the visibility could be turned on individually if desired.
one more thing is that i believe DD should never change the orientation of edges unless they are dimensioned with an angle. that way DD would not even need to add edge-edge angle dims, correct? if in some cases the model cannot be solved unless edges are rotated a message could popup and say (example) DD cannot solve dimensions without rotating edges, ok or cancel? if ok you could then be given the option to click on (choose) which edge to rotate.
anyway, these are just some ideas that may make your wonderful plugin even better. IMO.
QUOTE (xrok1 @ Mar 13 2009, 09:02 AM)
Dmitry, thank you so much for this amazing plugin. still looking forward to relations; =, parallel ...
xrok1, thank you for your positive response.
Please try to specify parallellelism constraint as an angle equal to 0 degrees. Is it convenient for you?
QUOTE (xrok1 @ Mar 13 2009, 09:02 AM)
i have two suggestions for you, if i may. first of all to address Nick's (and i'm sure other free users) concern, maybe you could comprimise by not counting fixed verts as part of the 25 dims limit.
secondly, it might be less cluttering on screen if the auto generated, edge-edge angle dimensions were hidden and only appeared when hovered over with the DDtool, then the visibility could be turned on individually if desired.
secondly, it might be less cluttering on screen if the auto generated, edge-edge angle dimensions were hidden and only appeared when hovered over with the DDtool, then the visibility could be turned on individually if desired.
Thank you very much for these suggestions - both of them seem useful.
QUOTE (xrok1 @ Mar 13 2009, 09:02 AM)
one more thing is that i believe DD should never change the orientation of edges unless they are dimensioned with an angle. that way DD would not even need to add edge-edge angle dims, correct? if in some cases the model cannot be solved unless edges are rotated a message could popup and say (example) DD cannot solve dimensions without rotating edges, ok or cancel? if ok you could then be given the option to click on (choose) which edge to rotate.
Could you please give me a particular scenario where such behavior occurs?
QUOTE (Dmitry Ushakov @ Mar 13 2009, 01:26 AM)
xrok1, thank you for your positive response.
Please try to specify parallellelism constraint as an angle equal to 0 degrees. Is it convenient for you?
Thank you very much for these suggestions - both of them seem useful.
Could you please give me a particular scenario where such behavior occurs?
Please try to specify parallellelism constraint as an angle equal to 0 degrees. Is it convenient for you?
Thank you very much for these suggestions - both of them seem useful.
Could you please give me a particular scenario where such behavior occurs?
you cannot set an angle to 0 unless edges are in a straight line, it would be good to see it like in screen capture 1.
see screen capture 2 for an example of off angle behavior.
PS if you can get ahold of solidworks, see how their relations and dimensions work. its one thing that SW has down to a science.
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PS it is difficult to communicate with such limited upload restrictions on this forum. i had to post twice to attach these small files??
PS it is difficult to communicate with such limited upload restrictions on this forum. i had to post twice to attach these small files??
QUOTE (xrok1 @ Mar 14 2009, 06:35 AM)
you cannot set an angle to 0 unless edges are in a straight line, it would be good to see it like in screen capture 1.
You cannot do that until you switch to a particular mode in the Options dialog (set "Dimension for to edges" option to "Angle" rather than "Auto"). Please refer to the Options section of our on-line Help for details.
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